Talk:Sydney/St George and Sutherland Shire

Southern Sydney Needs Amending

This page although being called 'Sutherland Shire' is including 'St George' which is not part of The Sutherland Shire. This page should be renamed 'Southern Sydney' and could potentially include the 'Sydney/Botany Bay' page which should be renamed to 'South Sydney' or 'Inner South'. We would then have a Southern Sydney page with the three regions of 'South Sydney/Inner South', 'St George/Southern Suburbs' and The 'Sutherland Shire'. Just a suggestion. 2405:6E00:48F:E430:309F:3C2D:924C:3221 08:52, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello, IP sock of Mapper2000, I Oppose renaming this to Sydney/Southern Sydney for the reasons I already mentioned on Talk:Sydney. If this is going to be moved, I would move it to Sydney/St George and Sutherland Shire. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:53, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Your Opposition is unnecessary as I'm pointing out the flaw in the article and suggesting a possible solution with 'Southern Sydney' being a logical suggestion much like the Wikipedia article of the same name which is simpler than the unnecessarily lengthy title of 'St George and The Sutherland Shire'. Alternatively you could have a separate article for 'St George/Southern Suburbs', 'The Sutherland Shire' and 'South Sydney/Inner South'. I've actually only made the suggestion on this page and the Botany Bay page because you told me to on your feedback of my proposed Greater Sydney concept, implying that you'd appreciate the feedback for everyone to see on these pages but it seems you just wanted more feedback to Oppose and make someone feel small. I will say however I'm genuinely not fazed in the slightest what the solution for this page and the Botany Pay page actually comes to as I'm perpetually shut down for trying to be helpful and trying to improve articles which gets quite demoralising overtime. Once again thank you for another Opposition. 2405:6E00:48F:E430:C10A:516D:41F6:534D 08:42, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Mate, I'm free to have my opinions and base my !vote off my stance. You are the one who's being excessively hypocritical by claiming my vote was unnecessary and am trying to "shut down for trying to be helpful and trying to improve articles which gets quite demoralising overtime.". Maybe don't use socks or canvass other users next time? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

So basically what you're saying is you're intentionally being vindictive and spiteful towards certain users based on your own personal suspicions and beliefs. Glad we cleared that up. How lucky we are to have unbiased accepting editors who bare no hostility such as yourself mediating the information on these articles. 2405:6E00:48F:E430:C10A:516D:41F6:534D 15:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikivoyage:Consensus#Status quo bias, w:WP:DUCK and WV:UBN. That's all I'll say. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 21:45, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I think redirecting this article to Sydney/St George and Sutherland Shire is a pretty good idea. I feel if there was enough information on St George it could warrant its own article but at this stage I don't think that's the case. Voyage2023 (talk) 00:03, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

@Voyage2023: Done. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 23:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

...and links updated. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 23:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)